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Taking stock: Where does the Ravishment Academy stand after two weeks?

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Taking stock: Where does the Ravishment Academy stand after two weeks?

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At this point, the Ravishment Academy is a little older than two weeks. I told myself that I would evaluate the forum after three months to see whether it is worth running or not. Now that we are roughly one sixth of the way there, it is a good time to take stock to see where we are at this point.


What went well

The forum launched on April 4. The strategy to invite people we knew from Ravishment University and The Black Van worked to get the forum started. We immediately had a good number of stories online, something for people finding the forum to sink their teeth into.

After the first two days, which saw 5 and 6 registrations respectively, the forum slowed down considerably. It probably reached its low point on April 8, with only 10 new posts created that day. For comparison, the first three days had 52, 54, and 57 new posts. Since April 12, the forum seems to have climbed out of that ditch and now gets between 30 and 50 posts a day.

When it comes to new stories, the forum seems to be doing fine for now. With @HistBuff and @Vile8r joining our ranks of authors, we’ve been able to somewhat compensate for the lower frequency of new stories compared to launch. By now, we have more than 40 stories on the forum, which means that the Public Stories board has a full first page and some spillover onto the second. So in terms of content, we’re doing well for such a young forum. I was genuinely worried what would happen once I ran out of stories I could publish myself, and I’m really glad that others stepped up to provide more reading material. If you’re one of the authors who have posted a story here: thank you, sincerely.

When it comes to other boards, I think the Book Club and Dining Hall are doing reasonably well so far. The only boards that worry me are the roleplay ones. Despite quite a few people being interested in RP, little to nothing has happened there. If these boards are still this empty after three months, I’ll close them and integrate roleplay partner searches into the Book Club. In their current state, these boards send a signal of inactivity to new users - which isn’t good.

The biggest success so far is the RavishU Memorial Contest. I talk more about it here, but the TL;DR is: it’s the most viewed thread on the forum and is almost singlehandedly responsible for the forum being findable via Google (and Bing).

As people started finding the forum through Google, registrations have seen a notable increase. After the launch weekend, daily registrations settled in the 0–2 range. But since April 15, 2 per day seems to have become the new baseline, with individual days reaching up to 5. If we can keep that going for a while, we’re doing fine for a new forum.


What might break the forum’s neck

Most new forums - regardless of niche - die shortly after launch. “Die” meaning they’re either shut down or slip into extreme inactivity. RavishU was in such a state, but showed signs of getting out of it when @Vela Nanashi and I started to make some changes. The Black Van was even worse. On TBV, the most-commented story had 50 replies (1,100 views), and the most-viewed had 2,000 views (with 33 replies). These are atrocious numbers for a forum that was online for years.

So it should come as no surprise that Lois, the owner of RavishU, saw little reason to keep shouldering the cost or effort to find a new host more tolerant of noncon writing. Trust me—finding such a host isn't the fun part of running a forum, I know because I just did that not long ago. And it should be even less surprising that The Black Van shut down even without any outside interference. The thread announcing its closure has more views (2,600) than any content on the site. The reason given was:
ZipTiesThatBind wrote:It has been our pleasure to provide you all with a space to indulge in our particular kink for these past few years. Unfortunately, both of us admins have gone through quite a few major life changes during this time, and we’ve come to the sad realization that neither of us can give the forum the time and proper attention it takes to run the place anymore. (Source: The Black Van - Forum Closure)
Does anyone really believe they would have shut down a well-running forum where 50 replies was average, not a record, and popular stories had deep discussion threads and thousands of views?

The truth is simple: when real life intervenes, no one keeps running a forum that doesn’t feel worth the effort. And that’s what kills forums in the noncon writing niche, again and again. A consumer mentality learned from porn: passive consumption without engagement.

You can argue that authors should “just write for themselves.” That’s a romantic idea. But you’ll never build a community on it. Communities depend on interaction.

Right now, two damaging patterns are visible in our niche and they’ve started to show here, too:
  1. Readers not commenting on stories.
  2. (To a lesser degree) Authors not responding to the comments they do receive.
The second issue has occurred here but is still rare. The first is a serious threat.

Many users who registered on day 1 or 2 have not commented on a single story, even if they’ve been online almost daily. Currently, only three users regularly give feedback on stories: @Shocker, @LaLia, and myself. Then there are a few who comment occasionally: @Mister X, @Vela Nanashi, @Blue, and @Nickamano.

That’s it, seven people. And if two of the first three stopped commenting, this forum would be dead in less than a week. We can’t keep commenting at this pace forever. We will burn out. We need some of the inactive users to step up to become occasional commenters so the regulars can take breaks without risking the collapse of the forum.

You might think your voice doesn’t matter. But with a forum this young, the difference between you writing five comments per week and none at all is massive. If we ever reach hundreds of active users, your comments will be one of many. But right now, you can literally tip the balance between survival and failure.

This forum is carried by seven people, and especially by three. If you want a place like this to exist long-term, be the eighth.
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Re: Taking stock: Where does the Ravishment Academy stand after two weeks?

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Thanks, Claire.

Those are thoughts I've been having over the past few days, too. The number of stories is really good, especially since we don't just have stories that have already been posted. I wouldn't consider the number of registrations to be such a bad number either.

Commenting on stories is something that sometimes makes me wonder whether other authors actually read or not. If we all just write, it will definitely be difficult, because we don't yet have enough numbers to balance things out. At some point, I'm sure members will come along who prefer reading to writing less. For example, I wouldn't be someone who would enjoy a forum just to read. It has to be vague, and I can only agree with Claire:

I think we've all missed RavishU in some way and are great that there's a new option. Please help us ensure that the work on a new board has been worthwhile and that it doesn't become game over soon.
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Commenting on posts is a double-edged sword.
I usually read new stories or story sequels as soon as they're published. If I like the writing style and content, I read them to the end. And if I particularly like something, I'll give positive feedback. Occasionally, I'll even suggest improvements.
I usually don't comment on stories I don't like—for whatever reason.

@Claire wrote (quote): "Authors don't respond to the comments they receive."
Well, that depends entirely on the type of comments you receive. As the author of a story, I have my own writing style and my own idea of ​​how a story should develop. I'm happy to accept suggestions and consider whether I can incorporate them into the story. If so, I'm happy to do so. But not all suggestions are implemented. Because it's my story I'm telling.
So please don't be angry if you as an author don't always react the way the reader might want.
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Re: Taking stock: Where does the Ravishment Academy stand after two weeks?

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@Blue No need to justify yourself, I was not talking about you at all, when I listed those two points. On the contrary, I only listed you as a positive example in my post and I mean that. And I've never been angry at anyone for not reacting to a story I wrote the way I wanted them to react. I love getting unexpected reactions. So don't worry about that.

edit: Oh, and btw, responding to a comment does not mean that you implement a suggestion into your story.
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Re: Taking stock: Where does the Ravishment Academy stand after two weeks?

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@Blue

Dann gefällt dir bis auf "Unhappy New Year" keine meiner Geschichten? ;)

Ich denke auch wenn man etwas nicht mag, ist das ja trotzdem Feedback, was auch helfen kann. Manchmal ist aber auch das ganz einfache "spannende Geschichte, ich freue mich auf Fortsetzungen" ganz nett, dies zu erhalten. Ich hab das an sich auch meist so gehalten wie du, dass ich nicht alles kommentiere, aber gerade im Moment ist das hier eine echte Gefahr, dass sich das Forum nicht lange halten wird. Speziell im deutschen Bereich sind es im Moment zu 95% Claire, Shocker und ich die kommentieren
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Re: Taking stock: Where does the Ravishment Academy stand after two weeks?

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Blue wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:14 pm I'm happy to accept suggestions and consider whether I can incorporate them into the story. If so, I'm happy to do so. But not all suggestions are implemented. Because it's my story I'm telling.
So please don't be angry if you as an author don't always react the way the reader might want.
Oh boy do I agree with you on this one, @Blue!

Some (hopefully rare) readers are manipulative people who will probe a writer to see how far they can go, and if they find the writer to be a yes-man / yes-lady, things will get worse and then go from bad to worst. I came across such readers who try to influence a writer by making suggestions, etc. Sometimes they mean well, but look out for those who could try to "hijack" your story.

Archives Of Our Own (AO3) is the worst I've seen for this. Usually when I see this, I cut things short and say "Well, you seem to have a lot of interesting ideas of your own. It would be interesting if you wrote your own story." And it makes sense, because when their version of my subject diverges so much from my own version, then they should be two different stories!

It's always fun to see how eager they are to influence my story, and then when I suggest the idea of them writing a story from scratch, they get cold feet and I no longer hear from them.

At the end of the day, it's my fantasy I'm sharing. It's me putting my own time into it. On such big platforms like AO3, you will stumble into all sorts of commenters... sometimes really bad people who think the whole world revolves around their head. This is why there's the option to moderate comments. Here we have mods and the community is much smaller, so I don't think you'll find such issues here on this forum.

I usually make it a point to respond to comments and will always stay civil if someone tries to influence my story. But at some point, I need to set healthy boundaries... without being an asshole. Assholes only belong in my stories as part of some brutal act of sodomy done on a pretty girl -- Hey, this is Blue I'm responding to here! :mrgreen:
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I think what this forum needs the most right now is called new members. Are we visible enough on the Web? I checked and found you can google "Ravishment Academy" and land here IF you searched it with quotation marks, which means someone must already know about the name. Visibility is a double-edged sword, but a forum needs some visibility to attract new members.
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@HistBuff
Hello Histbuff, well written.
Regarding my post about your story, in which I mentioned that I personally felt the story was missing some "sodomy," that wasn't a criticism or even an invitation to include something like that. It was just my personal opinion that I quite enjoy reading that sort of thing. Keep up the good work; the stories are good—and very long, so you have plenty of opportunities to enjoy them.
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LaLia wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:30 pm @Blue

Dann gefällt dir bis auf "Unhappy New Year" keine meiner Geschichten? ;)
@LaLia
Deine Geschichten sind alle gut geschrieben, ohne Zweifel, aber die eine oder andere trifft halt nicht wirklich meinen persönlichen Geschmack. Und bei diesen verkneife ich es mir dann, einen entsprechenden Kommentar zu verfassen. Denn nicht jeder Autor mag gerne lesen, dass es Leser gibt, denen die Geschichten nicht wirklich gefallen. Auch wenn das reine persönliche Geschmackssache ist.
Mach weiter so, da kommt sich wieder etwas, was auch mir gefallen wird.
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Blue wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:20 am
LaLia wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:30 pm @Blue

Dann gefällt dir bis auf "Unhappy New Year" keine meiner Geschichten? ;)
@LaLia
Deine Geschichten sind alle gut geschrieben, ohne Zweifel, aber die eine oder andere trifft halt nicht wirklich meinen persönlichen Geschmack. Und bei diesen verkneife ich es mir dann, einen entsprechenden Kommentar zu verfassen. Denn nicht jeder Autor mag gerne lesen, dass es Leser gibt, denen die Geschichten nicht wirklich gefallen. Auch wenn das reine persönliche Geschmackssache ist.
Mach weiter so, da kommt sich wieder etwas, was auch mir gefallen wird.
Hm okay :(

Schade ist halt, dass es gerade im deutschen Bereich im Moment echt noch schlecht läuft
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Re: Taking stock: Where does the Ravishment Academy stand after two weeks?

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Das war aber lange Zeit bei RavishU ähnlich, da war praktisch tote Hose, viele Leser, aber so gut wie keine Kommentare
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