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I’ve been reading about the type of media we partake in when it comes to our fantasies, and it got me to wondering about what elements we prefer within those fantasies. Victim types, places, snippets of dialogue, things like that.
Me? I enjoy stories of institutionalized violations – women-behind-bars exploitation movies, for instance. Futuristic dystopias. Secret police in brutalist fortresses. Noncon on a societal level. Victims caught in an unfeeling machine of degradation. Victims becoming ‘willing’ violators. Demotion fetish – taking a strong victim in a position of power, and breaking them down into a slave.
Which brings with it a raft of associated turn-ons. Latex bodysuits. Women with shaved heads (which does it for me, but I really don’t get). I got weak in the knees when I saw Emma Corrin in Deadpool and Wolverine.
Here’s an image from one of my comics as an example.
So I ask you all, what elements do you like – or need – in your fantasies?
For me it is hard to say. I don't think I have the one type I need to enjoy a story/fantasy, but there are some things I prefer over others.
What doesn't interest me as much are fantasies set in the current time, especially if it unfolds like so many crimes: Bad guy waits for the female victim on the lonely road, rapes (and sometimes kills) her on the fly.
I am more drawn toward historic settings, or sci-fi and fantasy, but not exclusively.
I also like settings where the victim is in an hostile environment where there is no easy escape.
That means for example the bad guy at least takes the victim into his dungeon where he can take his time.
That also works with (secret) societies, or settings in which slavery officially exists (like ancient Rome)
Or the very thing you describe in the opening post: Totalitarian prisons.
The evil machine is overpowering, invincible, all around.
Since I also don't like fantasies with too many (named) persons at once these scenarios allow for faceless minions that can be called in and sent away whenever needed. For example to undress and secure the victim for the evil overlord.
A huge part is bondage, BDSM and torture.
That is one reason why I like the dofantasy/fansadox comics. They often feature such stories where the victims are not only raped, but also whipped or tortured with electro-shocks for sadistic amusement.
I also realised that my tastes have changed a lot over time. Years past the victims where exclusively female, the rapists men and women.
I also disliked dofantasy for often using bad guys that where fat, old or ugly. Often all three at once.
These days I can enjoy that content more, and also added futanari to the mix.
Men, women futa: All can be victim or bad guy, in various constellations.
Additional bonus points for: Anal, Dominatrices, the rack....
I guess I have s tronger fetish for BDSM and torture, than for rape.
Always something worth thinking about, most of my stories, and such as my fantasy are grounded in power and power differentials. The act of penetration in my rape stories, isn't the main goal for me it's the how do we get there. My fixation on pantiegags is a strong sign of that. They offer so much more than, just being available. They drive home a message to the victim. Something that ought to protect their dignity is gone, their ability to speak is taken away and two of their nether holes exposed. The panties are dirty and taste of their own sex, or somebody else's.
I love pubic hair in my stories, a bush can be ridiculed and taken away. Somebody clean shaven can be called a slut for it. I love fucking with my victims mind long before, taking their other virtues. Power and humiliation are possibly my main motivating elements.
I wonder if I should have lain down on the couch for this analysis.
For me,
Universally,
Him Tarzan/Me Jane traditional gender roles.
In my fantasies, the perpetrator is always a male (though not necessarily always human) and the victim is always a woman (almost always me).
Similarly to Shocker, it does all come down to power for me.
Rape, of course, is fundamentally a violation of the victim's will over their own body, and I find the act of being forced into something so deeply intimate against one's will to be more interesting than the act of sex itself. Loss of control, of agency, are deeply fascinating to me, in all of its forms, be it the kind of home-invasion, kidnapped-by-a-pervert, attacked-in-an-alley scenes one might expect out of nonconsensual fiction, or blackmail or coercion-themed scenes, or settings with laws that are far more patriarchal or misogynistic, or where slavery is common and expected.
It's why I like scenes of humiliation, of a victim being forced to strip, of times when the girl who gets groped or has her butt spanked in passing just has to accept it with gritted teeth. A victim taken captive can be tied up or confined any way their captor desires, made to wear whatever the captor likes. A gag is about power, whether it's a mouth taped over, a sex toy like a ball gag, or, yes, the victim's knickers. I love interrogation/torture scenes as much for the power discrepancy as anything else.
If I'm writing a victim, be it in stories or roleplay, I tend to go with the good girl or the tough girl. I don't tend to like stories with 'the bitch who needs to be broken'. I like cruelty in a perpetrator, no matter their gender, but what matters most to me is the dynamic they have with their victim. Do they know each other? Hate each other? Are they friends, neighbours, former lovers? An authority figure abusing that authority? A stalker who's been watching them for months, or a total stranger meeting their victim for the first time?
There are a lot of things that I like, but the power dynamic and the context of it are the most important.
I always enjoy talking about this and similar topics. For me, it's humiliation. (It's in my name, after all!). Which, BTW, humiliation doesn't mean degradation. There is a qualitative line between those two in my opinion! Forcefully stripped is a big part of my tastes and a lot of what I'm into and talk about on (more vanilla) sites centers on EUF/ENF themes, which I like as a part of non-con content in general.
When it comes to non-con, I often prefer what I consider more of a ravishment aesthetic rather than a highly traumatizing and violent rape scene. I'd use the example of your typical cheesy exploitation film as a good example of what I gravitate towards. The scene in a movie like Gutterballs is a bit too violent for me; though there are movie scenes and stories that have elements I like with other elements that turn me off or make me uncomfortable.
As others have said, I find the power dynamics very interesting. I like the sense of precarity, the progression of events where things just start going wrong. The psychology of it can be very interesting, specifically for the victim. How do they feel before, throughout, and after the event?
I agree with Songbird on the "bitch who needs to be broken" being less interesting of a trope, though I can find enjoyment in those narratives if they are done well. Likewise, female victims who are established as already being "slutty" are less interesting to me as well. But I love unearned bad karma where the victim doesn't deserve their fate at all. They just may be unlucky to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and attractive enough in the perpetrator's mind to be taken. Archetypes of victims and perpetrators can be fun. On the victim side, ingenues are my favorite—and they often are left "untainted" in most mainstream movies and stories, so it's extra satisfying when that storytelling rule is broken. But I really go for more traditionally feminine victims, which interesting enough are typically not the type I date in real life. I wouldn't want to marry a trad wife, but a trad wife in a non-con or humiliation story really does it for me! I agree with Admiralpiet about unattractive male aggressors being less interesting. If the aggressor is male, I love it when he's attractive, educated, worldly. If the aggressor's female, I like it when she's self-actualized, confident, in a world of victims and aggressors would never allow herself to be a victim.
There are other related themes I like, though they don't necessarily have to be present in a story, bondage (though I'm not a fan of extreme S&M), deflowering, multiple victims (especially if they share in the humiliation), body betrayal be becoming physically aroused and even cumming against one's will, humiliating taunts and insults, and other assorted spice.