Interpreting the rules

[skuttrusk]

Hi, this is just to help me stay within the rules when posting and when I hopefully get around to writing new stories.

Is it acceptable to have a victim threatened with something extreme, so long as it isn't actually done in the story? This could be useful as a way to get a girl to degrade herself in an entertaining way, so the threat of a gun or a knife is a handy story device. But I'm not into snuff or maiming so it's no trouble to make sure the threat isn't fulfilled.

Some things that would be dangerous or life-threatening in reality can be treated unrealistically in a story so as to avoid risk. So really prolonged beatings with whips can be written so that the girl endures physical agony and psychological trauma but only temporary and photogenic red strips are produced. A huge gang-bang with dozens or even hundreds of rapists, which would be really bad news irl, can be written so that the recipient just has a very sore pussy and asshole when they're finished using her. Plus, of course, a lifetime of trauma LOL.

Some of my stories go still further and have girls beaten with fists, kicked, struck with clubs etc. But the general idea is cartoonish and rarely is any serious harm done.

I wrote one story with some seriously vicious stuff but magic was used to prevent serious injury. The victim experienced all the expected pain but was basically unscathed afterwards. This could still make a squeamish reader cringe and so wants a content warning, I think, but should it be avoided altogether?

Official rulings or opinions welcome!

[Vela Nanashi]

Threats totally fine, though there is a rules explained that tries to make things clearer. I will let Claire get in on more clarification. I had my point of view character in one of my stories be very near death from non sex related combat, we will see if that is okay or not

[Claire]

So, first the following page here might give you some clarity on the rules: Rules explained

It says there regarding extreme violence:

Extreme violence, i.e. extreme torture, gore, splatter, snuff: This is not a ban of violence or character deaths in general. You want to write a James Bond fanfiction story and Bond shoots some henchmen on his way to save Bond girl? No problem there. You want to include a scene where somebody dies from a heart attack during sex? That is fine with us. People getting slowly tortured to death for the sexual gratification of another, with or without consent, is not allowed. As a rule of thumb: If the degree of violence you have in mind could be shown in any generic action movie you are likely fine. If the scene would belong in splatter movie, not so much.

We have stories here where a man got stabbed to death or a victim was strangled. The question is: Are you writing torture porn that describes violence in gratuitous detail, let's say like the Saw movies? That would be a problem. But if you don't describe how a victim gets slowly dismembered and comes 5 times while bleeding to death while the rapists ejaculates on her? You are likely fine. Of course, the line where violence becomes too much is blurry. I will not pretend that we have this perfectly precise criterion that you can apply to any story like an algorithm that spits out the definitive answer.

Does that help?

[skuttrusk]

Thanks, that seems clear enough! I like a little torture but not so much the gruelling medieval kind. Preferably playful, designed to put the victim in her place and allow the rapist to assert dominance. I have written worse things but my preference is to leave the victim healthy and ready to suffer again... and again.

[skuttrusk]

In terms of body mods, what is included? Would giving a girl a nonconsensual tattoo marking her as a rape victim be a body modification? Piercing her nipples or labia or clitoral hood against her will?

I hate plastic surgery so no desire to go there.

[Vela Nanashi]

I think those would be fine, even if I don't usually make such permanent, but it would not count as extreme violence under the rules I think

[Lucius]

In terms of body mods, what is included? Would giving a girl a nonconsensual tattoo marking her as a rape victim be a body modification? Piercing her nipples or labia or clitoral hood against her will?

I hate plastic surgery so no desire to go there.

Okay I think, @Vela Nanashi sure does things like these in her stories as a matter of course.

[skuttrusk]

Thanks guys. Sending Carrie to prison, so a prison tattoo seems an obvious way to abuse her further...

[HistBuff]

Is it acceptable to have a victim threatened with something extreme, so long as it isn't actually done in the story? This could be useful as a way to get a girl to degrade herself in an entertaining way, so the threat of a gun or a knife is a handy story device. But I'm not into snuff or maiming so it's no trouble to make sure the threat isn't fulfilled.

During my time on RU I never wrote in the Extreme section (barring one unfinished exception). I nonetheless include the threat of some extreme harm, such as sodomy using a bayonet (the threat of...) so the girls would feel "gently persuaded" to perform fellatio or to just quit resisting and "kindly" let themselves be brutally raped and sodomized "the usual, vanilla way".

[skuttrusk]

That seems fair! I think really twisted threats like that are more fun that just plain death threats. "I'll nail your tits to the table" is just more interesting and whimsical than "I'll kill you."