Record Chaser

[Claire]

Chapter 7 – Struggle


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[Vela Nanashi]

Part 3:

Oh yeah I totally get the desire to understand people. Maths I love, but am not as good at it as coding, but they sort of unlock each other So Claire and I are on the same wavelength Oh yeah Gödel's incompleteness theorem and its many echoes in science, halting problem is one echo in coding. Bertrand Russel and his friend I forget name of were working on some huge math books to start from the axioms and work their way up, and that project was kind of snuffed out by incompleteness, but for me it is actually kind of beautiful, did not make me cry, poor Claire, the world is not a clock, and even things that are clocks can be stupidly hard to predict what they will do.

A lot of psychopaths, serial killers and such have their rituals that have to be just right, or the whole effort is ruined.

Claire is not doing as good a job at trying to understand him as she could I think. Though I understand not wanting to enter the mind of a rapist or other monster, most normal minds would not want that.

He remains rather silly though, got to give him that, apologizing and not being flexible in his plans, I still wonder why not.

Well I think men specialize more, having more extremes, than women who are usually (not always) a bit more balanced in skills, talents and such. So being good at maths and social skills would be quite rare

I think a lot of men probably test out the limits of recovery times and stuff, but man or woman eventually the friction becomes uncomfortable.

I think jerking yourself off is much more friction and wear and tear on the cock than fucking a pussy, so that might be one reason, also brain tattles on what it sees to the cock brain boss, and cock brain boss wants to fuck pussy, to do its job, I think

Poor Claire, but this is probably at least a bit better than a gang rape, as there will be recovery time between cocks, as I have not seen any indication that he wants to share her with anyone.

Yeah super charging the need probably will make at least the first two times more intense for him, and some men seem to think the whole no nut november thing helps them focus better, give them more drive. I don't know if there is anything to that though.

He is rather darkly hilarious in his thoughts though...

Lol, I mean the rules are better than their opposites, lawyers be damned. Still flipping nuts though

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I mean yes of course it would be discussed, the internet discusses nearly everything. Also yes you did go into humor there, dark but still funny.

[Vela Nanashi]

part 4:

Still trying to reason with him, I like the spirit, as futile as it is, and I got swept up with the emotions of the story and forgot to write much of a comment up to this point. Shame is an interesting emotion, that I don't find logical when it is not your own choice and actions, but is forced upon you, I think that logically that should leave one shameless. Then there are the whole people being ashamed of their bodies thing that I also don't get, but I know it is a thing.

He sure has thought a lot about all of this, at least the position he is putting her in is kind of gentle, he could have had her legs cuffed above her head too, to hold up her pussy and ass even more. I like his gentler approach though.

Though I guess mean words, and thoughts, for her.

Yeah that is what being rape means, a failure of protection of women, sadly common in a lot of the world, everywhere probably...

Beautiful imagery his cock kissing her clit, and that block of text in particular

I love when muscles on women exist and are also nicely hidden, by healthy body fat, so I will imagine that

I think (but you have heard this particular whine before) this story would be amazing if told in two first person narratives side by side, though that probably would be harder for most people to read, but they could also then choose who to inhabit, but also harder to write that way.

Her body kind of responding against her will, it may hurt her less if she could surrender to those impulses of her body, and maybe put in her mind that she actually is with a lover, so that her body can better prepare, and get hurt less.

Wise to not try to bite him or hurt him, for two reasons, being cuffed and not knowing where the keys are, if you could kill him without him hurting you that would be a bad situation, and other situations that are more likely are worse.

Yes her body betrayed herself is how most people put it, but it is honestly trying to protect itself and you, so it is not actually a betrayal, but survival.

I think he should have spread her pussy lips and then had them kiss his balls while he explored her with his hands, that contact probably would make her body get more ready. I love him exploring her body, though, but also think he missed the opportunity to also kiss her lips,

He is surprisingly darkly nice to milk his precum to try to lubricate her at least some.

I wonder if he will come to regret this later, given he has a still alive and fighting conscience with compassion, even as much as he keeps it caged and tries to kill it.

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Yeah we do many dark things to our characters sometimes... I like that he at least was trying to make it a little easier on her, but she resists her body responding to any of it, and that will hurt. Poor Claire.

[Vela Nanashi]

part 5:

Ouch yeah... Oh and he could have forced her to orgasm to clitoris stimulation, that I think would help lubrication... Though he seems to not think of that, maybe he really does not want her to feel any pleasure, but it would make it easier for him too... Disappointed in him? really brain? also claws out.

Her intellect pulling away from the situation into analysis, yeah that is a mood I understand. I often do that with pain too...

Hmm they are both having a very weird interaction now, dark version of silly cute?

I do love her intellect protecting her as well as it does, and just abstracting away everything.

Yeah biting his ear makes sense for rage/anger.

I am failing to comment due to the intensity again...

mouth shout -> mouth shut

You have only overwhelmed her physically, her mind is still hers.

Yeah this post was not as enjoyable to me, intense yes, but not in a good way. Sorry that this comment is not better.

It was very well written though, and realistic too I think.

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The intent:

I think you succeeded in most ways, but as much as it was intense for me, it was not arousing, not sure if that makes sense?

Meaning:

I know that feeling of disgust well, when we delve into the shadow, the dark part of ourselves, asking it to explain to the other part of us what all these things mean, how they would be, to understand our darker characters, and a lot of people do not even want to accept that dark side is there, and those are more dangerous than those who know of their dark side and listen to it, but then decide what to do themselves. It can be both draining and also give a wonderful dark release to truly delve into these parts of ourselves.

We are not quite the same, in what we find arousing, but you are a really good writer, and I can at least feel the intensity. I feel cold pins and needless, and my hands tremble. I still think it would have been even more intense to set this in each character from first person point of view, it would then be even more intense at least for me.

I do not like being in Mark's mind in this story, I probably would be... more comfortable being in Claire's mind? If that makes sense?

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[Vela Nanashi]

part 6:

I like that Claire is not entirely broken, she still has her spirit, trickery, intelligence. Also probably not really knowing it, she took that victory from him, glorious. Of course he will just keep reclaiming it...

I like this chapter, it was easy to read, even if it was hard for you to write, but I was swept up in reading it too much to write a blow by blow comment, I like that she has decided she will survive this, and that she is discovering the strength of her own body, sure it is not the same as a man's strength, but it is different and every bit as powerful in ways no man can compete with.

I will bake in the next comment in the same post since this got so short.

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part 7:

He is sure a strange fellow, I like him exploring her sleeping body. That reminds me a bit about a weird hentai flash game on newgrounds, where you wanted to arouse and make the anime girl cum without waking her up, it was actually rather hot, the maker had taught of many places to touch that were not breasts and pussy.

watched her breath -> breathe ?

On average even the fighter Eleanor would succumb to a man, though he might have to put more effort in, and not let her have free arms or such. Then again women have actually hurt men with their pussies during sex, a well timed clamping down can cause ripping of foreskin and the little skin thing that holds that at the bottom of the cock head's butt. Of course that will add blood from the man to her pussy, and that may be even better at spreading diseases than cum, in some cases at least.

I like her actually doing a semi competent job at resisting him, but it is very hard to do that physically, especially when partially restrained.

Now that position I find hot, a man restraining both hands/arms/wrists of a woman with one hand/arm. Also I am sure her squirming under him trying to dodge his cock is arousing to him.

This was actually hot except at the end, less pain, also he did not go out of his way to be extra mean to her, and he could have, but I will leave that to the imagination of the readers.

You write well and I hope you continue this story, though at this rate it will take 23-50 more parts (not saying that would be bad though).

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[Claire]

@Vela Nanashi Thank you for that flurry of comments, you made my day! Let's go through them one by one.

Chapter 3:

So Claire and I are on the same wavelength Oh yeah Gödel's incompleteness theorem and its many echoes in science, halting problem is one echo in coding. Bertrand Russel and his friend I forget name of were working on some huge math books to start from the axioms and work their way up, and that project was kind of snuffed out by incompleteness, but for me it is actually kind of beautiful, did not make me cry, poor Claire, the world is not a clock, and even things that are clocks can be stupidly hard to predict what they will do.

I loved including that detail about her. Having her cry over Gödel's incompleteness theorem was such a nice way to characterize her. Also, back on RavishU I inspired a reader to look up what Gödel's incompleteness theorem even is. So I am educating people with my rape fantasies.

He remains rather silly though, got to give him that, apologizing and not being flexible in his plans, I still wonder why not.

I wanted the contrast between his casualness and his horrible plans for her to be disturbing. But I guess silly works, too.

I think jerking yourself off is much more friction and wear and tear on the cock than fucking a pussy, so that might be one reason

I think it's mostly psychological. Masturbating you can always stop and try another time. But the feeling that this rape marathon is a once in a lifetime opportunity... that gives him the extra kick to keep going.

He is rather darkly hilarious in his thoughts though...

Lol, I mean the rules are better than their opposites, lawyers be damned. Still flipping nuts though

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I mean yes of course it would be discussed, the internet discusses nearly everything. Also yes you did go into humor there, dark but still funny.

When I wrote this, I really tried to predict how these rules would be received, assuuming they would gain some traction. And I could immediatelly see the philosophy YouTube channels having a field day with this. As dark as this may be, I don't think my description of what type of discussion you would see is that far off.


Chapter 4:

I think that logically that should leave one shameless. Then there are the whole people being ashamed of their bodies thing that I also don't get, but I know it is a thing.

Hmm, well it's emotion for a reason. Many things are just deeply ingrained in us. But overall, I don't think that Claire's reaction falls heavily on the shame spectrum. I think compared to many stories here, her sense of humiliation is rather subdued.

I think (but you have heard this particular whine before) this story would be amazing if told in two first person narratives side by side, though that probably would be harder for most people to read, but they could also then choose who to inhabit, but also harder to write that way.

I think that is mostly a preference hing. But I most certainly would not want the reader to skip one of the two perspectives. That would ruin the story for me.

Her body kind of responding against her will, it may hurt her less if she could surrender to those impulses of her body, and maybe put in her mind that she actually is with a lover, so that her body can better prepare, and get hurt less.

I don't think that every sensitive reaction of our bodies equals arousal. But I liked to include that little detail of her earlobes being sensitive. I had a friend a few years back who told me that she could come just from having her earlobes licked.

Wise to not try to bite him or hurt him, for two reasons, being cuffed and not knowing where the keys are, if you could kill him without him hurting you that would be a bad situation, and other situations that are more likely are worse.

You could not have foreshadowed Claire's own thoughts in chapter 5 better.

I like that he at least was trying to make it a little easier on her

I think he is just trying to savor the opportunity, that's all.


Chapter 5:

I knew that chapter 5 can be a lot when you really immerse yourself in it. That is why I warned you about it. Trust me, I know what it did to myself when I wrote it... I get that it is not your thing from an arousal perspective. But as a writer, I am happy that I am able to get such a strong emotional reaction out of my readers. I take that as a huge compliment. I actually considered putting a separate content warning on that chapter when I first published it. I still like it a lot and it still makes me shudder every time I reread it.

I think you succeeded in most ways, but as much as it was intense for me, it was not arousing, not sure if that makes sense?

Oh that absolutely makes sense. Another reader told me that he had to turn his empathy for the victim off to get aroused by it. I think you can't or don't want to do that and thus it kills your arousal while leaving you with other intense emotions. I am the weird one here for feeling both at the same time and getting off on it. I believe that my writing offers a very niche experience that probably only few can get really into. But I hope that for those who do get off on that contrast of emotions, it delivers.


Chapter 6:

Chapter 6 was all about returning some agency to Claire and reframing the central conflict of the narrative. Chapters 1 to 5 were about whether he will rape her or whether she will manage to escape somehow. This question has been answered, he won. With the end of chapter 6 the story is about something else: Can Claire prevent him from changing her perception of herself as he keeps abusing her? I like her emotional outburst in the middle of the chapter a lot and her subsequent reclaiming of her body. Made me actually cry a little when I had her immerse herself in her heartbeat.


Chapter 7:

On average even the fighter Eleanor would succumb to a man, though he might have to put more effort in, and not let her have free arms or such

Eleanor is the protagonist of Späte Genugtuung. She is a 1.8m tall kickboxer. In a direct confrontation, she would be able to hold her own against Mark who is not a trained fighter. But once you are cuffed to a bed like Claire is, you could probably be a 2m tall male heavy weight boxer and would still be unable to do much. So Claire is a bit delusional here, thinking that her free hands might make a difference. Given that her hands are free for the first time this chapter, I wanted to focus a bit on the physical struggle that results from that.

You write well and I hope you continue this story, though at this rate it will take 23-50 more parts (not saying that would be bad though).

Oh, that would be horrible. Given my current plans, the story will end with chapter 11. I already cut one chapter from my plans because it would have gotten to repetitive for my taste. I never intended to tell the entire 24 hours with that slow pace. Chapter 8 begins with the first long time jump.


Vela, thank you so much for going through the story in such detail. That means so much to me! I hope chapter 5 didn't put you through the wringer too much. :/

[chloevee]

“I don’t want to be raped.”

Her voice was firm, but gentle. It wasn’t a command or a plea, just a simple factual statement about her own desires. Desires he had been about to trample. Desires that were so obvious that the other women he had raped in the past never even thought to mention them. Desires he had always known about but now could no longer claim to be unaware of.

This one is my guess for your favorite paragraph. It's my favorite in this chapter.

[Claire]

This one is my guess for your favorite paragraph. It's my favorite in this chapter.

That is a nice one, too. But no, my favorite is:

Yes, he felt guilty for what he was about to do. But what of it? What better way to drown out the feeling of guilt than to bury his dick in her untouched cunt? He might feel guilty now, he might feel guilty afterward. But he will indulge himself in the pleasure of filling that tight little fun hole between her legs with his cum to his heart’s content. If guilt was the price of admission, then he would make sure that he wasn’t overcharged.

I love the brutality of it, the escalation, the flow, how it rolls of the tongue if you read it out loud, and that final punchline.

@chloevee Out of curiosity, how far did you read? Did you take a break after chapter 2?

[chloevee]

@chloevee Out of curiosity, how far did you read? Did you take a break after chapter 2?

I'm all caught up on the story. I wanted to take time to reply to each chapter, but life happened.

I think I'm equal parts delighted and horrified by this story. One thing that has really struck me is how much more disturbing the ongoing assaults are, not in spite of the (relative) lack of brutality, but because if it.

Mark even said something that reflects my feelings when he wondered if it may have been a mistake to spend so much time getting to know Claire and seeing her as a person, because it made it harder for him to dismiss his guilt. The cordiality of their interactions outside of the rapes makes the act so much more disturbing.

(I don't mean that in a bad way, by the way. Provoking that level and depth of feeling is impressive and masterfully done.)

Somehow in spite of that, it's also a really entertaining story, even funny at times. I like both of the characters, and I never feel like I know what is going to happen next. It's a fascinating story and I am looking forward to reading more.

[Claire]

@chloevee I didn't read your comment like you didn't like it, not at all! And I'm happy when I am able to invoke some feeling in my readers. What better compliment can you get than "Your story made me feel something!"? If somebody wrote that they just felt sorry for Claire and cried and didn't get even a tiny bit of arousal out of it I would also absolutely love that comment!

The occasional bits of humor in the story surprised even myself. I'm still proud of that cruel pronoun-joke I put into Mark's mouth in chapter 7...

But now I got to ask: What did you think of chapter 6, Claire's emotional outburst and reclaiming of her body after the trauma festival that was chapter 5? It was so hard to write a follow-up to that 5th chapter.

Now I really got to write chapter 8. I'm taking so long to finish this story, it's starting to haunt me! :D