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Re: You

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Quinotaurus wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:20 pm I enjoyed it. Usually stranger danger assaults aren't my thing but the little pragmatic details (like not being able to tell the color of her bra) made it feel real.

A few typos (I think) :
Your salivating ==> You're salivating
to far ==> too far
Ugh, I'm such an idiot. I don't know how many of those typos I've corrected on this story up to this point and I still keep finding more. Thanks for pointing these out to me! I will fix them immediately.

Also, glad to hear you liked the story! Normally, this is also not my favorite scenario. I chose it because I wanted rapist and victim to be strangers and the assault to be not planned. But yeah, man assaults woman in a park, that's very cliché and uncreative.
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Great writing. Very clear and concise. I really liked the male POV.

It put a number of thoughts into my head. Like he could have started to try and make deals with her to buy an easier time of it. Like "if you stop struggling I'll use a condom" - which then put into mind an alternate scenario of (perhaps the same man) walking through the park and spies a couple having sex against a tree, or on a park bench. They seem to be having a good time. He watches for a split second, smirks and then moves on. Then the perspective shifts to the couple and its revealed that the woman is being raped, only she had decided to cooperate in order to get an easier (safer?) time out of the experience. The observer could easily have gone over and helped the woman but he misread the situation and walked on. Just something interesting that came to me.

The only bit of criticism I could suggest is that there's no transition from the man's intention to protect the woman from a hypothetic rapist to taking on that role himself. I probably would have had a paragraph when he is looking at her body through her clothes and is getting increasingly turned on by her and like a switch flipping the lust overtakes the morality.
I don't know how an actual rapist's mind works, there's the back and forth that it isn't about sex but about power, which I only half agree with but I feel like there must have been some trigger for your character that turned him from a concerned observer to full on stranger danger... Or maybe it is there all along and I just missed it?

Overall a really well imagined and well written story.
To answer the question I personally wasn't thinking of anyone specific - and in fact I missed not having more description of the woman. Of course, if you had described her then you wouldn't have left room for reader projection, so believe I understand the choice.
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Re: You

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Nickamano wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:37 am Great writing. Very clear and concise. I really liked the male POV.
Thanks, I appreciate the compliment. It has been a while since I wrote this but I also think it holds up nicely. :)

Nickamano wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:37 am It put a number of thoughts into my head. Like he could have started to try and make deals with her to buy an easier time of it. Like "if you stop struggling I'll use a condom" - which then put into mind an alternate scenario of (perhaps the same man) walking through the park and spies a couple having sex against a tree, or on a park bench. They seem to be having a good time. He watches for a split second, smirks and then moves on. Then the perspective shifts to the couple and its revealed that the woman is being raped, only she had decided to cooperate in order to get an easier (safer?) time out of the experience. The observer could easily have gone over and helped the woman but he misread the situation and walked on. Just something interesting that came to me.
Go for it! I'm curious to see what a short story from you would look like.

Nickamano wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:37 am The only bit of criticism I could suggest is that there's no transition from the man's intention to protect the woman from a hypothetic rapist to taking on that role himself. I probably would have had a paragraph when he is looking at her body through her clothes and is getting increasingly turned on by her and like a switch flipping the lust overtakes the morality.
I don't know how an actual rapist's mind works, there's the back and forth that it isn't about sex but about power, which I only half agree with but I feel like there must have been some trigger for your character that turned him from a concerned observer to full on stranger danger... Or maybe it is there all along and I just missed it?

Overall a really well imagined and well written story.
To answer the question I personally wasn't thinking of anyone specific - and in fact I missed not having more description of the woman. Of course, if you had described her then you wouldn't have left room for reader projection, so believe I understand the choice.
My intention when I wrote this was that this whole "I'm just looking out for her..." thought pattern was a justification for himself. His heart starts racing as he gets closer, he realizes immediately that he has been hard for a bit now as he grabs her etc. He just tried to maintain that self-image of being a good guy until he ran out of even the last bit of plausible deniability. But I agree with you. If that doesn't click with the reader immediately, that he's lying to himself as he approaches her, then the transition is jarring. Now I am curious whether others thought, too, that his concern in the beginning was genuine.
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Straight, cis guy here. I really enjoyed the story. I typically don't need to identify with the villain-protagonist in a ravishment story, but I think the second person perspective added a very spicy immersion aspect to the narrative. Related, one thing I absolutely loved was the continual emphasis on the villain-protagonist's growing erection. And while we could navel gaze about phallic symbolism like a bunch of first year lit-crit grad students over that, it's honestly much more visceral and base: As a guy, a lot of the fun and thrill of erotica is the process of actually getting hard. And the growing "discomfort" and pressure of it is part of the experience. Its a very visual and unmistakable manifestation of the man's need and it often functions of a contrast to the woman, inasmuch the man's cock gets harder and harder, the woman becomes more and more objectified by the process. This story didn't touch on it due to the second person perspective, but I really like it when the woman knows how hard the man is, either by sight or feel, and feels a sense of dread from it—she knows that he'll be "using" it to dominate her. I honestly wish more adult movies gave more attention to the actual act of becoming erect (as a related aside, I often find it boring when the man whips it out in a porn and is still limp and has to get the woman to blow him to erection...I much prefer him to whip it out standing at attention, already unable to contain his desire for his catch...she can still blow him though ;)).

The man undressing may have been unrealistic, but I personally don't desire full realism in erotic fiction (unless it's something like the physically impossible pool sex scene from the movie Showgirls...if you know, you know LOL). In fact, I like the idea of the man taking the woman on his terms, and if he wants to undress rather than haphazardly just yank his pants down, then I think it works!

If I could offer just a mild constructive critique: A few descriptions were a bit clinical, but overall, I really liked this story and will be reading more!

To the poll question: I didn't have a specific woman in mind. I have a vivid imagination, but I also like to be able to visualize the characters from the story. The aesthetic of the characters and even more so, the archetype they occupy, is very important to me.
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Re: You

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@HumiliationInc Your first post, right? Welcome to the Academy! The detailed feedback is much appreciated, thank you!
HumiliationInc wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:54 pm If I could offer just a mild constructive critique: A few descriptions were a bit clinical, but overall, I really liked this story and will be reading more!
Oh, I get that's not for everyone, but it's a conscious choice on my part. I really dislike it when every little thing is described with very flowery language. But give maybe @trio's stories a try. They are the absolute opposite to my stories in that regard. Whiskey at the Grand Hotel Bar might give you exactly what you like in terms of descriptions!
even more so, the archetype they occupy
Tell me more about that. Do you mean that in terms of their physical appearance or their characters? In this story, I left both things intentionally blank so that readers could project themselves onto the characters. But in general, I put great emphasis on personality and care little to nothing about the details of the physical appearance.


It's nice to see someone here come in with such a detailed feedback for a first post. That means a lot! If you like a story, please give it a rating, you can give it 1 to 3 points depending on how much you liked it. And the more reputation you yourself gain by either publishing stories yourself or commenting on them, the more you will be able to rate other people's stories and comments!
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Re: You

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Claire wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:10 pm Your first post, right? Welcome to the Academy! The detailed feedback is much appreciated, thank you!
Indeed! Though I used to lurk and occasionally post on the old RU site. So I'm excited to see the new site!

Tell me more about that. Do you mean that in terms of their physical appearance or their characters? In this story, I left both things intentionally blank so that readers could project themselves onto the characters. But in general, I put great emphasis on personality and care little to nothing about the details of the physical appearance.
I mean more archetypes in a literary sense—for example, ingenues. Archetypes or tropes can often be stand-ins when actual character development can't be written. At the most cliché, it could be the stereotypically pure virgin—and there is a place for that—but it can be the dutiful wife, office girl on her way from work, etc. The archetypes can interact with the narrative of the story and implicate additional meaning. For me personally, I don't find the stereotypically "slutty" characters getting taken all that interesting since they don't really have "anything to lose" literary speaking, but a naïve good girl falling victim can be very erotic. While some like to see strong, self-actualized victims, I actually prefer those who don't "own their sexuality" to be victims. And in fact, I like the strong, self-assured to be villain-protagonist, helping the villain-protagonist, being a queen bee, or occupying some other character space. For a comic analogy: Rogue or Poison Ivy being ravaged doesn't really interest me, but Lois Lane or Mary Jane finding themselves in peril with a bad end certain gets my attention! But those are totally my tastes and others may be interested in the complete opposite.

And I will definitely upvote!
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Re: You

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This is one of the stories I read early on, and have been meaning to come back and comment on.

I really enjoyed the journey this story takes the reader on. From a presumably normal guy, to a man driven to rape a stranger--in spite of the lack of his own pleasure for most of it, and finally to a man faced with the reality of his actions.

I love all of the practical considerations in this story. Like how to undress a woman without her fighting back, or how to take off one's own clothing while one hand is busy muffling her screams.

Claire wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:16 am Forcing yourself into that defiant hole hurts. You enjoy the tight hug of woman's pleasure hole as much as the next guy. But this isn't just tight. This cunt is trying to crush you. You're not gliding into a well oiled passage, but you're chafing your cock against her resistant walls. Nothing about this feels pleasant, nothing but the fact that in this fight of cock versus cunt your cock is winning.
Whenever I read a story about an assailant raping a woman dry, I always think that it doesn't sound like very much fun for the rapist. So I appreciate you calling out to that in this story.
Claire wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:16 am You remember the warm and wet embrace of her willing vagina. Never had you felt as welcome as in the moment she let you enter her body.
I haven't read the behind-the-scenes thread you linked to yet, but I'm curious who the "her" is that thinks of here.

There are so many great lines in this story, but there are a few of my favorites:
Claire wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:16 am You can't even begin to imagine what she must be thinking, but you do realize one thing: Neither she nor you will ever forget this night.
Claire wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:16 am You're still rock hard inside of her. Your cock is resting in the conquered space between her legs, bathing in the victory champagne it has doused itself in.
Claire wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 11:16 am You're making eye contact with her. She looks scared. And somehow you feel scared too.

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@chloevee Thank you for the detailed feedback. I can only recommend to you to read my explanation of how I planned this story. I think that adresses every point you raised and especially answers the question about who the woman actually is. Let me copy that here:
Claire wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 2:22 pm I want to try something. Let me share with you how my planning process for You worked and how that informed the decisions I made for the story. I'm curious whether you find that interesting.

It all started with the idea that I wanted to go for maximum immersion with the goal to make readers, but especially men, feel implicated by the rapist's action. Liking that story should feel uncomfortable. Then I asked myself: How do I do that? And I thought that the second person narrator is ideal for that purpose. What better way to implicate someone than to directly address them with "You are doing this."? The reader either accepts the premise that they are the one acting or they stop reading.

Then I knew that I need to make the rapist relatable in some sense at least. I presume that nobody here is an actual rapist, so let's make the rapist inexperienced. The methodical hunter, the cold blooded serial rapist as the main character wouldn't work for this story, that is to unrelatable. To convey that inexperience,I wanted the rapist to act spontaneously, not planned, and I wanted him to struggle, I wanted him to not know how to do this.

I also knew that for the rapist to stay relatable, I could not have him be completely unaffected by the suffering he inflicts upon his victim. Therefore, I decided early on that the story would end with the sentence "What have you done?" as regret catches up to him after he has finished.

Next I decided to keep both the rapist and the victim totally vague in their descriptions. No names, no age, barely any description of their physical appearance. You, the reader, are supposed to project yourself onto the protagonist. So I can't describe him as a 47 year old software engineer who is 1.87m tall with a small belly and grey long hair. He is just some guy who took a detour through a park on his way home from work, that's all you know. I needed to avoid the thought "That guy is not me." to pop up in the reader's head.

I approached the victim similarly. I wanted him to see someone in her he knew, someone he misses. But again, I never specify whether this is an ex-girlfriend, a dead wife, a woman he loved but never had the relationship with he wanted. When I asked people in a poll on RavishU whether they had a specific woman in mind while reading, 50% of those who voted said yes (small sample size though). So that worked pretty well I think.

Then I decided to make loneliness the motivating factor for his actions, the desire to matter in someone else's life. I think that is deeply human and very relatable to many people. Who hasn't felt lonely at some point in their life, right? So the story sets the tone with the first sentence "You are alone."

From that it follows almost naturally to have the story and him climax with the realization that in this moment that he rapes her he is not alone. I knew this would have to be the thing that sends him over the edge.

With all I have said so far, I was naturally restricted to write a short story. That might seem obvious, but the vagueness of the character descriptions and motivations commited me to keeping the story short. How do you keep this vagueness up in a long story like Record Chaser without it becoming absurd? Better writers than me might be able to do it, but that would be beyond my abilities as a writer I think.

Let's take stock: I knew that I wanted to write a second person short story about a man raping a woman during a chance encounter with the intended goal to have (male) readers project themselves onto the main character and feel implicated by his actions. I knew that the story starts with "You are alone", climaxes with "You are not alone" and ends with "What have you done?" The two characters in the story would stay as vague as possible to allow the reader to project themself and a woman they know/miss onto the characters. Loneliness would be the defining motivation for the protagonist's actions and he would be inexperienced at what he does. The woman he attacks would feel familiar to him without being someone he actually knows.

Then I started writing. Everything else you read in the story are details that are informed by that framework.
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Very strong story. Psychologically believable while still working as a rape fantasy that can be enjoyed. The chilling ending is effective even if, for masturbatory purposes, I'd prefer something else.
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Re: You

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I liked this story a lot, and I also found your comments in reply to others interesting. A lot of thought went into the story, which is something I appreciate.

Two very tiny editing/language suggestions.
"Your hand cusps her right breast" ; I think you meant "Your hand cups her right breast".
(Possibly one can use cusp, usually a noun, as a verb, but I don't think that that would
work well here.)
"Her body wants to desperately breathe through her mouth"
I think it would be more natural (and for me it would be more effective) to write
"Her body desperately wants to breathe through her mouth".

Thanks again,
Rich
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