The Love of My Chains

[Vela Nanashi]

Oh I wanted to say something in case I forgot, I do not want you to change things in your story, even when I complain about some things I am still curious to see where things go, but I know it is not a setting or story written for me.

@Claire I think I have seen this kind of thing between master and slave before, if you have not seen the story of O yet then that has somewhat of this feel to it, I know that is an ancient movie though. However I have read many of these master slave stories written from the perspective of the slave and how the slave can feel extremely safe and happy and heh liberated not having to worry about anything other than pleasing master, and really loving that. Yes of course the master has to be actually not a horrible person. That theme is also in the gorean / gor stories, where sure the kajira (slaves) are completely at the whim pf masters but most of them or at least the ones I have read so far have masters that treat their slaves as actually treasured possessions, not things to use, destroy, toss out and replace. So basically Gor has a whole lot nicer slavery than say dofantasy comics do, I still dislike most of the stories I have probed on this. But I still have this desire to understand different people and what desires they have So I too am curious about these things @sinfulwords

[sinfulwords]

@Claire

Oh wow! Thank u for your question I’m very happy to learn that the story is a bit of a head scratcher in that regard because to me that signifies the story is somewhat original albeit, u r correct when u say it leans into certain stereotypes

The “why” is a bit simple for me actually I write the things that I do as a bit of a combination between yours and Vela’s motivations.

I write for fun, plain and simple, writing is my form of escapism as well. I simply enjoy the hobby. As for why I write the subject matter of erotica: it’s what I find the most fun to write ^.^ so that’s what I do! And similar to you, Claire, I have a proclivity to write the more morbid side of things; morally depraved as u put it. I’m drawn to the taboo. Always have been! So just writing tender love scenes isn’t gonna do it for me I’d bore myself to sleep!

As for the slave/master dynamic: I write what I find sexy. Idk if that’s a let down, that I don’t have any in-depth introspective sort of motivation, cause i just let my libido be my guide. And I do confess to having a bit of a sub kink, so, the master/slave dynamic calls to me naturally.

As for the specifics of “why do I have a focal dynamic centered around tenderness and trust” well I’m happy to report: I was intentionally highlighting a theme. Having a sub kink myself, I have explored kink-spaces in real life, and what is being projected in Sadie and Tyler is more akin to an ACTUAL dom/sub dynamic where as Patsy and his girls encompasses more of the stereotype of what those relationships are “supposed” to be like according to outsiders …or to power play fantasy folks who’ve only explored their fantasies and ONLY their fantasies.

So yeah!! Maybe that’s why the story has an original flare: because many people see master/slave or dom/sub dynamics as these incredibly brutal things but when u actually walk into these spaces and observe the people who participate in them (or participate yourself) u find they’re much more in depth and are centered around a mutual respect with lots and lots of trust

[sinfulwords]

@Vela Nanashi

It’s no worries i feel you compadre! I’m starting to understand the critique culture here a bit better from all these interactions with you and our HG Claire at first I was put off by the criticisms I received here on RA, cause I come from A03 which has an INSANELY positive feedback culture (in my preferred fandoms at least). so criticism of my writing, in any capacity, was somewhat rare cause it’s frowned upon in those communities. So when I first posted here and experienced y’all’s more candid feedback culture, it was something of a culture shock…but now I’m starting to adapt and will probably grow to even treasure those candid perspectives (critical or otherwise) as you’ve described for yourself

[Vela Nanashi]

The master slave thing in the proper bdsm community is if the rules are followed way clearer about what is okay and not than most normal relationships outside that, so it kind of most of the time is extremely consensual and clear, and there are safe words and such to handle dynamic changes in what the slave can handle. I use magical safe colours in many of my stories, that can be communicated telepathically, red for more intense please, green for I love this, yellow for mercy please, and blue for stop I need to talk. Red, green and yellow are requests, blue is a command. Feel free to steal or adapt

[sinfulwords]

The master slave thing in the proper bdsm community is if the rules are followed way clearer about what is okay and not than most normal relationships outside that, so it kind of most of the time is extremely consensual and clear, and there are safe words and such to handle dynamic changes in what the slave can handle. I use magical safe colours in many of my stories, that can be communicated telepathically, red for more intense please, green for I love this, yellow for mercy please, and blue for stop I need to talk. Red, green and yellow are requests, blue is a command. Feel free to steal or adapt

Oh yeah mutual consent is the bread and butter of BDSM relationships, I couldn’t agree more. That’s fun u use red light green light rules in your stories! that’s actually a pretty common praxis within aforementioned BDSM communities so it’s fun you incorporate that into your stories

[Claire]

and our HG Claire

Gonna out myself as old here... but what's an HG?


But regarding the actual discussion about the master/slave dynamic: It never occurred to me to view the master/slave relationship as related to dom/sub relationships in real life. To me, these are categorically different things, but I can see how personal experience in that scene might give one ideas to tell a story where all the rules of responsible kink spaces are thrown out the window.

And since you briefly spoke about the feedback culture, I want to clarify two things. By default, I assume that an author who publishes something here has an interest in improving their craft. But not everybody here comments under that assumption and once I realize that someone doesn't care much about that, I adjust how I comment or stop commenting altogether.

In your specific case about the exposition issue: The point was not that you should not give the reader this information, but that you could integrate that information into the natural progression of the plot instead of frontloading it. So please don't take away that you're not supposed to write stories with intricate worlds. I like the actual background story you thought of for the world a lot. But let's leave it at that. If you ever do want to talk about craft, feel free to hit me up. I enjoy discussing such topics a lot.

For now, I'm looking forward to where you take that master/slave dynamic in the remaining chapters.

[sinfulwords]

@Claire

lol no worries, HG is homegirl which is slang for a female homie (friend)

BDSM: for starters in BDSM, as far as my experience goes, “i think…” is viable in ALL situations as definitions and dynamics shift freely between partners, but Master/slave is a type of dom/sub relationship. So they are intertwined. Like dom/sub can carry ANY kind of intensity while Master/Slave usually involves a higher degree of power exchange or a TOTAL power exchange. Although I’ve encountered softer power exchanges where the honorific of master was included in correlation to a slave title. It all really depends on the folks involved

Now as far as my story is concerned, obviously it is a fantastical representation of a “good” dynamic and a “bad” one. But of course even those descriptors are open to interpretation based on whose in fact interpreting them

Feedback culture: i appreciate ur clarifications and I understand where you’re coming from On AO3 it’s just VERY much assumed that everyone writes and posts there for fun, so, by proxy I’ve integrated that concept into my head, sort of assuming that culture is true of ALL free-publishing sites. So, I understand you were coming from a good place I was simply not accustomed to that sort of feedback so I took it really hard cause RA and A03 do have very different feedback cultures.

Now that I’ve had time to marinate with the concept I can see how a more candid feedback culture can be beneficial to a writer, once one understands that opinions are not facts, and every piece of constructive criticism is just that: an opinion; to be taken or left out however the writer sees fit

[Claire]

lol no worries, HG is homegirl which is slang for a female homie (friend)

Even I know what a homegirl is, just never seen that abbreviated as HG. Maybe I'm not yet completely lost on gen z lingo after all.

[Lucius]

Chapter 3

offers the readers more kinks, including hard deepthroating. I like the dynamics of submission...

A heavy sigh blew through Master’s nose as he nodded pensively. As if he were considering the feedback quite seriously. “Well, would it make everyone feel better if me and Sadie joined in on all the shenanigans?” He asked, his gaze jumping from guest to guest as he spoke. “Do you think that might alleviate some of the tension, here? Highlight our roles properly for everyone in the fucking group?” His eyes then settled on Master Patsy. “Ya think that might rectify the situation, P?"

Is 'rectify' derived from 'rectum' in this particular instance?

[sinfulwords]

Chapter 3

offers the readers more kinks, including hard deepthroating. I like the dynamics of submission…

YES! It is a cornucopia of kinks ^.^....I too love the dynamics of submission (obviously LMAO)

Is 'rectify' derived from 'rectum' in this particular instance?

A lady never reveals her foreshadowing ….

Thanks so much for reading and reviewing ^.^ I appreciate the engagement
Hope you continue to find things to enjoy in my rad-tad-tale of dominance and submission