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HumiliationInc wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:15 am I've only read the first part but I'm quite enthralled. What I love about it is the focus on base desire and even the shame that comes with that desire. It reminds me being constantly horny during my earlier years. I've posted this before on one of your stories, but I love the emphasis on men getting erections in stories as it represents a physical manifestation of desire—and can almost be viewed as a weapon in ravishment tales.
When I talked to men about puberty in the past, having to deal with unwanted erections at the wrong time seemed to be a recurring theme. It seems also to be the case that with increasing age, the memories of that seem to become fonder. :lol: So I thought it would be interesting to have Anthony feel totally baffled by his body as if he was 16 again.

I alsso agree that in our stories a hard penis can be treated like a weapon. I even make explicit references to that idea later in the story and in Record Chaser.
HumiliationInc wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:15 am It depends on the type of institution and level of course. While 1,000 would be quite large, some larger research-oriented universities in the U.S. (your equivalent of Universitätens) can have up to 300 in a large lecture hall for 100- and 200-level introductory courses, particularly courses taken as general education requirements. Once you start moving into your major program of study, the classes become around 10 - 30 students.
That's good to know, thanks! Then I wasn't completely off and it's not that different from Germany.

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Vela Nanashi wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:49 pm A the venus's touch link :)
Indeed! Now you can picture what happened at Venus' Touch while Anthony and Marla were busy doing... whatever you would call this type of sex.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:49 pm Surprise sneak 100 from Marla there lol, and he clearly is not very observant, and very in his own head.
It is time for the spinoff that reveals Marla to be a secret Ninja.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:49 pm Teachers are to blame for that in the end, the falling quality of education, as every year we invest more resources and every time we do the results get worse, clearly that is not working. Though there can also be some other currents at work there, but there is less excuse these years as we have fewer and fewer students (fewer children), so one would think the extra resources and smaller number of students would cause better results. But anyway... this is me speaking from personal experience with teachers, a lot of them knew less than me in their own subject...
My own frustrations with teaching students at universities did not inform this chapter at all!

Vela Nanashi wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:49 pm They are in a rough situation for sure, wanting to have children but not being able to, that is one of the worst things. Good to see them finding their way back to loving sex, though yeah feeling desired is definitely important not just to women I suspect but men as well.
I thought it was a nice piece of backstory for the two of them. It make them feel more complete to me when they are more than the horny prof who raped his studen and the tragic wife who knows nothing.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:49 pm I think the largest erogenous zone is the brain itself, everything else follows from that
Agreed! Some people can even think themselves to an orgasm with no touch whatsoever. At least I read that somewhere.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:49 pm Marla and Anthony make a cute couple, sad he is not really truly there though...
Kind of tragic, right?

Vela Nanashi wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:49 pm Anyway looking forward to next part.
Thank you as always for the great comment. I think I have about 80% of the next part translated.
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Yeah I recognize that state, where you don't want to talk to people you care about, as you just can't maintain your mask, to protect them from how you really feel and you don't want them to be sad or worried...

Ouch yeah... I have also stayed in school once, after I really should just have gone home... not for same reason as her though...

Yeah... this call with her father reminds me a lot of calls I have had too... where my role have kind of been both sides of the call... oof is all I can say...

I have a bit of a hard time fully getting how she imagines she agreed to the sex, an agreement is done with words ahead of time in my mind, but I guess she is trying to protect herself from the truth, that this was rape.

Better warn Eugene of the shards of sharp glass on the floor in the kitchen before he steps on them and makes a bloody mess...

"Eugene I horizontally dropped it very fast" :)

They are adorable together. I can see why her father might think there is more there.

Nah Eugene knows the better way, dominance may be good, but what you actually want is to be the safe place for the woman you love, but also make her aware of your desires, without fear, that is qualitatively different from dominance, but sort of similar too.

Eugene is cute, not seeing her that way, so she is confusing him, and he is kind of chasing and desiring Claire. This situation is not fair for him, but at least he chose to resist rather than let her do something with him that he was not ready for or in the mood for, and perhaps what she should have done with the professor too...

Ouch... yeah... even more reason to not try to force him to do things he does not want...

I think Eugene could have handled more if she had been honest and talked to him about what she needed and why, rather than trying to manipulate and take that from him. But this is rough for her too, but in this case I think she went too far.

Enjoy is the wrong word I think, it was well written, it made me feel things, so in that way it was very good, but it was hard emotionally to process.

That all said I hope you soon share the next part assuming there is more :)
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@JTCK, @Blue, @Mister X, @LaLia, @AdmiralPiet, @Irenova, @Julia, @Interception

All of you read and liked the original German version. Unless you find the English translation horrible, I'd appreciate if you could give the English version a rating too. Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the translation! I put a lot of work into it and I'm dying to know what someone thinks who is familiar with both versions.

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Vela Nanashi wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 5:26 pm Yeah I recognize that state, where you don't want to talk to people you care about, as you just can't maintain your mask, to protect them from how you really feel and you don't want them to be sad or worried...
I think we've all been there at some point. :/ But in Eleanor's case it's even more than that. She tries to convince herself that she wasn't raped but that this was a trade sshe engaged in. Telling your father "I was raped" you probably expect that he'll help you. But if you think "I had sex in exchange for a job and a scholarship and now I feel about that", which daughter could tell her father that?

Vela Nanashi wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 5:26 pm Yeah... this call with her father reminds me a lot of calls I have had too... where my role have kind of been both sides of the call... oof is all I can say...
That's nice to hear. I was hoping that some people would be able to recognize themselves in that call.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 5:26 pm I have a bit of a hard time fully getting how she imagines she agreed to the sex, an agreement is done with words ahead of time in my mind, but I guess she is trying to protect herself from the truth, that this was rape.
You hit the nail on the head here. That's exactly it. Eleanor tries to tell herself that this was a trade. She doesn't like what this alternative story says about herself, but it's still easier to endure for her in a sense than admitting that she just froze and had no agency. In her mind, she's rather a willing participant in an unpleasant exchange than a victim. Especially for a girl like Eleanor who has so much pride for her physical strength and ability, admitting that she just froze out of fear for the consequences of resisting him is even more difficult.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 5:26 pm They are adorable together. I can see why her father might think there is more there.
I think so too. Writing this was fun... and painful knowing where it all would go.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 5:26 pm I think Eugene could have handled more if she had been honest and talked to him about what she needed and why, rather than trying to manipulate and take that from him. But this is rough for her too, but in this case I think she went too far.
She absolutely did. She didn't mean anything bad, it's just her traumatized brain twisting things. Her having sex just mere hours after the assault can't be a good idea, so it's good that Eugene put a stop to it. I wanted to show here how a victim can violate boundaries of others herself. And the challenge in writing this was how to get to that point in a way that the reader understands what's going on with her.

Vela Nanashi wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 5:26 pm That all said I hope you soon share the next part assuming there is more :)
I hope to post chapter 4 part 1 before the end of the year. It's fairly short. But chapter 4 part 2 will take me a while.
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Claire wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 9:25 am @JTCK, @Blue, @Mister X, @LaLia, @AdmiralPiet, @Irenova, @Julia, @Interception

All of you read and liked the original German version. Unless you find the English translation horrible, I'd appreciate if you could give the English version a rating too. Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the translation! I put a lot of work into it and I'm dying to know what someone thinks who is familiar with both versions.
I was away for some days and stumbled over this version shortly before your post.
I was very confused at first.
Wasn't this finished? Where have my comments gone?
Took me a bit to realise I read it in german first :lol: :lol: :lol:

I will give it a re-read and come back to you
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AdmiralPiet wrote: Sat Dec 27, 2025 8:51 am
I was away for some days and stumbled over this version shortly before your post.
I was very confused at first.
Wasn't this finished? Where have my comments gone?
Took me a bit to realise I read it in german first :lol: :lol: :lol:

I will give it a re-read and come back to you
That could happen to me too! :lol: Thank you, I appreciate it! I hope you had a Merry Christmas!
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Okay, I'm caught up now. I'm certainly seeing similarities between Late Satisfaction and Record Chaser in the platonic relationships the main characters have. It's different, I must say. Not that men and women can't be friends, but I don't usually hear about such long-term friendships that remain so strong and current well into adulthood. It makes me wonder if Eleanor and Jason are fated to find each other. But that's assuming Eleanor hasn't blown it with Eugene. Somehow I doubt that he has. He's pissed and puzzled now, but I think that will change in time.

I don't read enough German to read the original, but I'd still be interested in knowing about anything special you're doing in the process. I can't judge them both, but the English is coming out great. So unless 'Ich liebe die Muschi' is translating incorrectly as 'I sure do love cats,' I don't think you have any problems here.
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SoftGameHunter wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 1:58 am but I don't usually hear about such long-term friendships that remain so strong and current well into adulthood.
Oh, Eleanor and Eugene only got close during their last year in high school. They are not like Claire and Jason who have known each other since pre puberty.
SoftGameHunter wrote: Sun Dec 28, 2025 1:58 am but the English is coming out great.
Thanks, that's high praise from a native speaker and wordsmith like yourself! I'll talk a bit about the translation process in the next post.
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So translating this story has been a fascinating process. And being the author of the original story myself, I'm at liberty to make changes a professional translator likely wouldn't make. I will talk mostly about some details of chapter 3 part 2, but let me begin a bit broader.

First, there is the title of the original: "Späte Genugtuung"

"Spät" is the German word for "late", but "Genugtuung" is more tricky. You can translate that as I did as "satisfaction" but also as "retribution". So an alternative title could have been "Late Retribution", maybe even "Delayed Retribution" if you want to be a bit more liberal with how you translate "spät". But I decided against "retribution" because that makes Robertson's actions here feel more planned and intentional, less like an urge he wrestles with. Also, it takes away the focus from satisfying an old desire he thought he had overcome and portrays this more as a revenge story. That is why I went with "Late Satisfaction", but the element of Robertson getting back at Victoria is definitely there, even if it is mostly subconscious.

One thing I became very aware of during the translation process is how much more natural long, flowing sentences feel in German. I think one of the most common changes I made throughout the entire story so far is splitting one long German sentence into two shorter English ones. Partially, the reason might be that longer sentences are more difficult to make sound natural in English for a non-native speaker. I learned British English in school, I'm confronted with very academic English when reading scientific papers for my job, and my feeling for what's natural, contemporary English is very much influenced by American pop culture. None of that translate directly into writing long-winded, flowy prose.

Let's go into details for the first time. To give you an example, look at this paragraph from chapter 3 part 2 of the German text:
(German Original)
Sie spürte wie seine warmen Finger auf ihrer Schulter mit leichtem Druck ihrer wohltuenden Präsenz zusätzliche Bedeutung verliehen.
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(My official translation)
She felt the warm fingers on her shoulder slightly tightening their grip as if he wanted to make sure that his soothing presence didn’t go unnoticed.
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(Google translate)
She felt his warm fingers on her shoulder, their gentle pressure adding further meaning to his comforting presence.
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(DeepL)
She felt his warm fingers on her shoulder, their gentle pressure lending additional meaning to their soothing presence.
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(ChatGPT)
She felt how his warm fingers, resting on her shoulder with gentle pressure, gave their comforting presence an added sense of meaning.
The first difficult thing to translate here is the word "wohltuend". "Wohltuend" consists of "wohl(=well)" and "tuend(=doing)". You know a similar construction in English for "well-meaning" which would be "wohlmeinend" in German. Literally, "wohltuend" as an adjective means "something that feels good to you" and in that particular sentence that's Eugene's presence. You can see how Google and ChatGPT translated this as "comforting" whereas DeepL went for "soothing" just as I did. If you ask dict.cc to offer you translations for "wohltuend" it lists:
soothing {adj}
therapeutic {adj}
pleasant {adj}
refreshing {adj}
anodyne {adj} [fig.]
blessed {adj} [calm]
beneficial {adj}
grateful {adj}
genial {adj} [favorable, pleasant]
beneficially {adv}
beneficent {adj}
I find it interesting how the AI translations avoid the German sentence structure in favor of something that sounds more natural here. If I tried to translate the sentence trying to mirror the German sentence as close as posssible, it would read something like this:
She felt how his warm fingers slightly increased the pressure on her shoulder to grant their comforting/soothing presence additional meaning.
That's very clunky right? I think that "grant" in terms of literary style fits the German "verleihen" here better than Google's "adding", DeepL's "lending" or ChatGPT's "gave". But the sentence just sounds very odd to me. Ulimately, I decided to let go of the entire "granting additional meaning to his fingers' presence" construction of the oirginal German. I made that about Eugene's presence as a whole (note that Google did that too!), not just his hand (or fingers), and removed the meaning angle entirely. The result was this sentence here:
She felt the warm fingers on her shoulder slightly tightening their grip as if he wanted to make sure that his soothing presence didn’t go unnoticed.
And that sounds much more natural to me while it retains the slightly abstract, literary quality the original German text has. You can see how none of the AI translations take such liberties. I turned "light (or slight) pressure" into "slightly tightening grip" and the "increase in meaning of his presence" into "making sure his presence didn't go unnoticed".

And the interesting part for me about all this is: I didn't think half as long when I wrote the original sentence in German roughly a year ago.

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Another example is this piece of dialogue from Eugene:
(German orginal)
Was… was wird das hier, wenn es fertig ist?
(My official translation)
Where... where are we going with this?
(Google translate)
What... what will this be when it's finished?
(DeepL)
What... what will this be when it's finished?
(ChatGPT)
What… what is this going to be?
The German "Was wird das hier, wenn es fertig ist?" is a very common thing to say when you observe somebody doing something you don't fully understand and are slightly amused by. It's usually a bit teasing, like you're asking them "What the hell are you doing?" but gently. If I had translated this literally, I would likely have gone for something like this:
What... what's this here going to be once it's done/finished/complete?
But I think that could sound more accusatory in English than I intended for the German original because the expression doesn't carry the same slightly humorous tone that the German version has just naturally. Eugene's trying very hard to stay calm and light while also trying to draw a gentle boundary here that doesn't come across as some harsh rejection. The AI translations I don't like at all because to me it's not clear what the "this" refers to in their versions. Interestingly, I gave all three AIs the context of the previous two paragraphs, but none seemed to notice that the idiomatic German line doesn't work well in English here. I thought ChatGPT might get it because it's good at reading texts in context but yeah, I find the translation weak. Again, I took the liberty here and changed this sentence to:
Where... where are we going with this?
Note how he says "we" and not "you". The original German is a passive construction, just as my attempt at a literal translation is ("...once it is done"). It doesn't name either of them as being active here. If I had gone for "you" it could easily be read as accusatory again. I felt that turning this into "we" softened the sentence quite a bit which reflects the intent for the German original.

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There is many such small nuances in the text that I hope elevate the quality of the translation beyond what just an AI would produce. I also took some liberties by adding a detail here and there that wasn't present in the original text, like the name of the bar that Eugene was invited to in chapter 1 or the exact name of Robertson's linear algebra lecture. But let's end the comparison by looking at a full paragraph now:
(German Original)
Ihr Vater hatte aufgelegt. Sie hielt das letzte noch abzutrocknende Glas in der Hand. Sie zitterte plötzlich am ganzen Körper. Sie war zu Hause, sie war sicher. Irgendwie hatte sie sogar dieses Gespräch, das sie nicht hatte führen wollen, gemeistert. Sie atmete schwer. Sie schloss die Augen und versuchte sich auf ihre Atmung zu konzentrieren. Sie trat einen Schritt zurück und setzte ihren zitternden Körper auf die Tischplatte des Küchentischs. Plötzlich konnte sie ihn spüren, Professor Robertsons Penis, wie er in ihr kam. Sie riss die Augen auf und blickte panisch an sich herunter. Da war nichts außer der Jeans, die sie neu angezogen hatte. Dann schrie sie auf und warf dem Robertson vor ihrem inneren Auge das Glas in ihrer Hand an den Kopf. Es zerschellte an der Küchentür und verteilte sich in zahlreichen Splittern auf dem Küchenboden.

(My official translation)
The call was over. She held the last glass that still needed drying in her hand. Without warning, she began to shake. She was home, she was safe. Somehow, she had even managed to get through that call she had tried to avoid. Suddenly, every breath felt heavy. She closed her eyes and focused on her breathing. She took a step back and sat down on the kitchen table, still trembling. Then she felt it, him, his penis, a sudden flash. Professor Robertson was inside her again, coming. Her eyes flew open. Panicking, she looked down. There was nothing, just the jeans she had put on. Then she screamed. She hurled the glass in her hand at the image of Robertson in her mind. It crashed against the kitchen door, bursting into pieces scattered on the floor.

(Google translate)
Her father had hung up. She held the last glass that still needed drying in her hand. Suddenly, she was trembling all over. She was home, she was safe. Somehow, she had even managed to get through this conversation she hadn't wanted to have. She was breathing heavily. She closed her eyes and tried to concentrate on her breathing. She took a step back and sat her trembling body on the kitchen table. Suddenly, she could feel it, Professor Robertson's penis, as it entered her. She opened her eyes wide and looked down at herself in a panic. There was nothing there except the jeans she had just put on. Then she screamed and, in her mind's eye, threw the glass in her hand at Robertson's head. It shattered against the kitchen door and scattered into numerous shards on the kitchen floor.

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Her father had hung up. She held the last glass to be dried in her hand. Suddenly, her whole body began to shake. She was at home, she was safe. Somehow, she had even managed to get through this conversation, which she hadn't wanted to have. She was breathing heavily. She closed her eyes and tried to concentrate on her breathing. She took a step back and sat her trembling body down on the kitchen table. Suddenly she could feel it, Professor Robertson's penis, entering her. She opened her eyes wide and looked down at herself in panic. There was nothing there except the jeans she had put back on. Then she screamed and threw the glass in her hand at Robertson's head in her mind's eye. It shattered against the kitchen door and scattered into numerous shards on the kitchen floor.

(ChatGPT)
Her father had hung up. She was holding the last glass that still needed drying. Suddenly she began to tremble all over. She was at home, she was safe. Somehow she had even managed to get through that conversation she hadn’t wanted to have. She breathed heavily. She closed her eyes and tried to focus on her breathing. She stepped back and sat her trembling body down on the kitchen table.

Suddenly she could feel him—Professor Robertson’s penis—as he came inside her. She jerked her eyes open and looked down at herself in panic. There was nothing there but the jeans she had just put on. Then she screamed and, in her mind, hurled the glass in her hand at Robertson’s head. It shattered against the kitchen door and scattered into countless shards across the kitchen floor.
I don't want to go through this in detail, but I guess you can see how I'm taking liberties with sentence structure here. Also, two AIs translated "wie er in ihr kam" as "entered her" instead of "came inside her" which I find odd. I can see how you could come to that conclusion if you are completely unfamiliar with "coming" as an expression for orgasm... but I would think the AIs would know that. Personally, I like this part of my translation the most: "Then she felt it, him, his penis, a sudden flash. Professor Robertson was inside her again, coming." I like the staccato of "it, him, his penis, a sudden flash", how it's building, narrowing, then erupting, how the rhythm mimics her panic.

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I think I'll leave it at that. Maybe that was interesting for some of you. If you want to know something specific about German vs. English for any particular passage, feel free to ask!
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Very good! There's an interesting 'non-conception' theme here. The Robertsons couldn't conceive a child, Eleanor couldn't conceive that Robertson was raping her -- and I hope she isn't about to get pregnant either! I like the portrayal of inner workings of the minds of Robertson and Eleanor, especially the delusive aspects of their thinking.
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