Does Humor Belong in Rape Stories?

[skuttrusk]

I got the title from Frank Zappa's "Does Humor Belong in Music?" And yes, I'm of the opinion that if one is creating rape porn then that's already so transgressive that some jokes can't make it worse.

Some people argue that rape jokes contribute to the normalization of rape in society. I don't know if that's true but the idea of it in fantasy perversely appeals to me. Something that makes men even more powerful, even their jokes can increase female subjugation...

Humor as a coping mechanism is a good addition to the list: I like it in stories when a victim makes a self-deprecating joke to help deal with her situation. Girls self-deprecating is a turn on for me, and in the fictional context of them having been raped it's rather delicious.

[modela2]

I remember there was an old BDSM Library author who wrote the most gruesome rape content with a dialogue style straight out of a Chevy Chase movie. Boy were those some witty serial killers.

It worked a lot better than you’d think, if anything it makes you feel a lot worse for the victims when everybody else is treating their suffering like it’s a practical joke.

[Lucius]

I remember there was an old BDSM Library author who wrote the most gruesome rape content with a dialogue style straight out of a Chevy Chase movie. Boy were those some witty serial killers.

It worked a lot better than you’d think, if anything it makes you feel a lot worse for the victims when everybody else is treating their suffering like it’s a practical joke.

Do you by any chance remember their name? The Library is still up from time to time, and I'd like to check it out.

[modela2]

Do you by any chance remember their name? The Library is still up from time to time, and I'd like to check it out.

I think it was llabmik

Content warning, his stuff very much would not be allowed on this site. High casualty rate.

[Lucius]

Content warning, his stuff very much would not be allowed on this site. High casualty rate.

Uh-huh. And, honestly speaking, his writing is so-so.

[modela2]

Content warning, his stuff very much would not be allowed on this site. High casualty rate.

Uh-huh. And, honestly speaking, his writing is so-so.

Tbh I consider him in my top five murder-porn writers. But that’s a quite narrow niche. It just happens to be mine, so I’m a bit biased.

But yeah he always did integrate humor into his stuff, and I always considered him one of better ones who writes more cartoony stuff… but it is more torture porn stuff, yeah.

[Writers_Bloque]

I try to make my rape scenes not exactly laugh out loud funny, but Ironically humorous. Like: "He walked into the basement ready to take his buddies money this week at their weekly poker game. Blissfully unaware, that his buddy had sent out a mass text that the game was moved to another house, as his bratty sister staying with them was having a reunion with her old high school friends. He entered the basement with the beer and a wallet full of cash. However little did he know, that the ladies around the card table had other ideas for him, as they lounged around the poker table in their lingerie. They sabotaged the text, luring him to what now seems to him to be his impending doom. A lady, hiding in the closet at the door to the basement, exits as he is already down the stairs with a rope in her ready hands. She locks the door behind him, and the last thing he sees is the ladies removing their panties before his lights go out from behind as the taser sends its strong punch through his system."

[Lucius]

Tbh I consider him in my top five murder-porn writers. But that’s a quite narrow niche. It just happens to be mine, so I’m a bit biased.

But yeah he always did integrate humor into his stuff, and I always considered him one of better ones who writes more cartoony stuff… but it is more torture porn stuff, yeah.

Absolutely no kink-shaming from me, I've got nothing against well-written snuff personally. I totally understand that his stories work fine for purposes of arousal. It's just that... Like, the beginning of one story goes like this:

The rich, very upscale members of The Snuff Club arrived to view the latest snuff movie from California. It was billed as a triple slaughter. They and their
camp followers were eager for a sniff of dying quiff. Each had brought his or her own supply of toadying suck sluts, flatbackers and Anal Annies for quick
reference. The star-struck fuckmeat, as always, was totally enchanted at the prospect of absorbing some celebrity slime or slurping up some rich bitch's cunt scum while enjoying some of the perq's of wealth and privilege like watching a screaming beauty snuffed hard.

This is pretty much 'tell, don't show'at its worst. Alliteration is a dangerous tool too, and 'perq's' is just wrong on so many levels.

Again, that's just my literary tastes speaking. I'm the first to admit that I really like some writing that would make an editor run for the hills.

[modela2]

Tbh I consider him in my top five murder-porn writers. But that’s a quite narrow niche. It just happens to be mine, so I’m a bit biased.

But yeah he always did integrate humor into his stuff, and I always considered him one of better ones who writes more cartoony stuff… but it is more torture porn stuff, yeah.

Absolutely no kink-shaming from me, I've got nothing against well-written snuff personally. I totally understand that his stories work fine for purposes of arousal. It's just that... Like, the beginning of one story goes like this:

The rich, very upscale members of The Snuff Club arrived to view the latest snuff movie from California. It was billed as a triple slaughter. They and their
camp followers were eager for a sniff of dying quiff. Each had brought his or her own supply of toadying suck sluts, flatbackers and Anal Annies for quick
reference. The star-struck fuckmeat, as always, was totally enchanted at the prospect of absorbing some celebrity slime or slurping up some rich bitch's cunt scum while enjoying some of the perq's of wealth and privilege like watching a screaming beauty snuffed hard.

This is pretty much 'tell, don't show'at its worst. Alliteration is a dangerous tool too, and 'perq's' is just wrong on so many levels.

Again, that's just my literary tastes speaking. I'm the first to admit that I really like some writing that would make an editor run for the hills.

Oh absolutely, that’s not a great line. He has a very specific writing style with lots of alliteration and wordplay. But I do enjoy the silly rhymes and such, and how they contradict with the rather dour scenarios his female characters find themselves in. Maybe they make me feel less guilty reading it lol.

But yeah it’s more silly than good. Idk if I would enjoy his stuff it if it didn’t appeal to my rather specific fetish.

[Corvid]

I appreciate the way you apply humor in your stories, @skuttrusk , but I couldn't imitate it. I can read it and see the humor in it, but I think if I tried to write it, I would both do a lousy job and end up feeling bad, both for making light of my characters and their situation, and for straying so far from my usual modus operandi that I'd surely see myself stumbling around like an irritating tourist.

This is not to say there hasn't been humor in my stories. The dominatrix who is the victim in my story "Lioness" puts her attackers through the verbal wringer, and I had several people tell me they found particular lines funny (as intended), but it wasn't so much about making the story or the situation itself funny as showing her unwillingness to be broken by the attack.

The one that I wrote for pure situational absurdity was the story of Lolita Virginia Snow, an eighteen-year-old nymphette who waltzes through a variety of seeming set-ups for rape erotica scenarios entirely unscathed, only to conclude the story wondering just exactly what an eighteen-year-old nymphette has to do to get some action, anyway.

There's a scattering of humor in my stories just because, well, some times funny and absurd things happen in life; friends make jokes when they talk to each other, and sometimes humor is just how we bravely soldier on. Humor, like sex, is a part of life, and its conspicuous absence often makes a setting feel less real. There may be no atheists in a fox hole, as the old saying goes, but there are plenty of comedians.